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PostSubject: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:10 pm

Mods don' move or delete this cause its about art, and its a death rant mwaha.


Seriously guys, whats up with all the avatar maker stuff? Thats not real art, you shouldn't post it like it is. No i'm not saying Beauty's shop is wrong, but when she opened it up, it was fine and cute, but now theres quite a few kids opening shops that deal with avatar makers. Lets just get this straight, and i'm not going to be nice about it either, IF YOU USED AN AVATAR MAKER ITS NOT REAL ART, AND YOU SHOULDN'T POST IT LIKE IT IS! If you didn't draw the lines, color it yourself, etc. Then its not real art. Again, Beauty's shop is fine, because she clearly stated she wasn't the maker of the avatars, she used an avatar maker. Honestly I'm not saying you can't make a shop that you make the avatars with an avatar maker, do what you want I don't care. Just if you do, you need to clearly state that your not the one making the pixels. And another reason, if someone already made a shop with one avatar maker, then why on earth would you make a second shop using the same avatar maker? Especially, when the first shop is still active. Now if it hasn't been ordered in, in 2-7 weeks the feel free too. Just guys seriously, you are not fooling any of us by saying you made the avatar, when you clearly made it on an avatar maker.

(Now don't reply saying, "Huh what i don't get this?" Then read it again. -_- It just seriously makes me mad when I see kids here using and avatar maker then saying THEY made it. Thats called plagiarism hun')

Again just to get this clear, I AM NOT SAYING BEAUTY'S SHOP IS WRONG!

(I'm a death ranter, Razz.)

More:

I know some of you arn't comfortable with the people you draw, but its okay, show us, we'll tell you how to become better. No one here is rude enough to tell you your art is absolutely terrible, because its not. Its special because you made it with YOUR own two hands. But that still isn't a reason to say you made the avatar, when you used an avatar maker.

More:
This is Hellokittystar's awesome suggestion, give the user the link to the avatar maker, so that way they can design it themselves!

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Constructive Criticism Rant

Seriously guys, I see quite a few users here starting to throw fits, and scream, and start huge fights just because one person rated the picture a 7/10. Take it like a big kid, a 7/10 is good. I mean heck, they could have given you a 1/10 if they wanted. Seriously, stop crying your heart out. We are NOT going to give you any sympathy. Its their opinion, just ignore it if it bothers you so much. I see this alot when people give constructive criticisms. READ THE NAME! Constructive criticisms, not I'm going to be mean and say this stories horrible criticisms, think about it, the people are trying to tell you how to write a better story, make a better picture. Listen too them!

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Recoloring Rant

Whats the big deal about recoloring? I swear about 80% of the users here are trying their hardest to be a recoloring pro. Dude recoloring isn't even that impressive, now editing items and making your own items, IS. And even worse, there are users that started recoloring like 1 hour before they made a shop. They can't shade or anything yet so they get upset because their shop fails miserably. If you don't understand how to shade your recolors then use this guide here! When you can finally shade and actually make good recolors, THEN make a shop, otherwise please just wait and save yourself a hissy fit.

Yeah I know the people are just trying to get better and want to be creative, thats not my point. My point is that people should consider their art before they make a shop for it, and if people don't like it they should take that, and understand why no one has ordered from them, instead of throwing a fit.

~2008sarah~

Anaira's Point:

I agree.
I don't think they are useless, but they are very annoying and unoriginal.
And, there shouldnt be more than 5 shops of the same thing.
Example, there are WHO KNOWS HOW MANY recolor shops...and most aren't even good...and I think they're not real art either...you're just putting a color on top of the other, my opinion, don't disagree with me. I dont like those edit shops either...
And these shops, are using OTHERS PEOPLE'S CREATIONS to give to someone, now, I sortof like beauty's shop, she makes the avatars very cute and all.
But puh-lease guys, it's not necessary to have more than enough shops.


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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:12 pm

Good for you. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:14 pm

I agree.

And, the only reason I made that shop is just 'cuz I like making those avvies ;D

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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:15 pm

Sairy, it's awesome that you had the guts to say this.
I felt the same way and I didn't want to start a fight or get yelled at for it. ._.

Then, guys, I also find shops using avatar makers kind of stupid because you could just give the person the link to it and let them do it themselves...
I'm not saying Lyli's shop is dumb, as Sairy stated.
I'm just making another point. xP
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:18 pm

Woah you guys agree with me? I was expecting to get pelted with tomatoes.

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Its okay, I can be a total death ranter/ debater sometimes. And thanks xD


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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:19 pm

I totally agree.

I also agree that lyli's shop is fine xD

Good for you for posting this ;]
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:23 pm

Moved to Forum Discussion.

It's important and needs to be read by certain people. <,<
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:24 pm

I wanna make another death rant about something else. But im gonna get pelted with crap. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:24 pm

I agree! I think Beauty's shop is all right since she actually at least adds something likes text. =P
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:25 pm

pokeranger wrote:
I agree! I think Beauty's shop is all right since she actually at least adds something likes text. =P

Yeah, and I also edit some.
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:34 pm

I'm not into shops, but it's a PAIN to see so many REPEATS. No offense, but a lot of people don't have the skill or experience to make a shop. You first recolor getting a good rating doesn't mean you need a shop people! Most shop owners all have the same experience. Nothing is wrong with making a unique shop, or making your own if you have better experience. Being bored is not an excuse to make a shop though. It really isn't. When I log on, there's a 9/10 chance that the first 5 or 6 recent posts are ALL shops. And they all make the SAME thing.

Remember, I have nothing wrong with having unique shops....
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:35 pm

i hate when people think it's okay to like, take credit for other work.

i dunno who makes bannedstory, but i bet a lot of people copy them
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:02 pm

Bluerivers wrote:
I wanna make another death rant about something else. But im gonna get pelted with crap. Very Happy
What is it?

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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:16 pm

Wrote more death rants, added to this topic. Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:19 pm

I agree.
I don't think they are useless, but they are very annoying and unoriginal.
And, there shouldnt be more than 5 shops of the same thing.
Example, there are WHO KNOWS HOW MANY recolor shops...and most aren't even good...and I think they're not real art either...you're just putting a color on top of the other, my opinion, don't disagree with me. I dont like those edit shops either...
And these shops, are using OTHERS PEOPLE'S CREATIONS to give to someone, now, I sortof like beauty's shop, she makes the avatars very cute and all.
But puh-lease guys, it's not necessary to have more than enough shops.
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:20 pm

Anaira wrote:
I agree.
I don't think they are useless, but they are very annoying and unoriginal.
And, there shouldnt be more than 5 shops of the same thing.
Example, there are WHO KNOWS HOW MANY recolor shops...and most aren't even good...and I think they're not real art either...you're just putting a color on top of the other, my opinion, don't disagree with me. I dont like those edit shops either...
And these shops, are using OTHERS PEOPLE'S CREATIONS to give to someone, now, I sortof like beauty's shop, she makes the avatars very cute and all.
But puh-lease guys, it's not necessary to have more than enough shops.

Thankyou, mind if I copy and paste this into the rant, I'll be sure to give credit, this is a very good point.
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:25 pm

2008sarah wrote:
Anaira wrote:
I agree.
I don't think they are useless, but they are very annoying and unoriginal.
And, there shouldnt be more than 5 shops of the same thing.
Example, there are WHO KNOWS HOW MANY recolor shops...and most aren't even good...and I think they're not real art either...you're just putting a color on top of the other, my opinion, don't disagree with me. I dont like those edit shops either...
And these shops, are using OTHERS PEOPLE'S CREATIONS to give to someone, now, I sortof like beauty's shop, she makes the avatars very cute and all.
But puh-lease guys, it's not necessary to have more than enough shops.

Thankyou, mind if I copy and paste this into the rant, I'll be sure to give credit, this is a very good point.

Not at all, go ahead, I know I make a point...
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:27 pm

The thing about shops is, they're fun. I agree, we need more originality, but shops are a simple exercise that give you practice so you can get better.

Also, you see someone do a shop, see they're having fun, then you want your own shop, regardless of your talent, and see it's fun! I don't think it's gonna go any time soon. I apreciate you guys' bravery, but i find it great that people want to stretch their creative muscle. (I wouldn't be were I am now without it)

Just ignore them if they bother you.
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:30 pm

Well, i recolor. I have been recoloring for about a year or 2. Yeah, Its not so hard, which I dont find impressive that much now. i practice editing now. =P
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:38 pm

The Banner's i make is hand made on the computer i don't use those banner makers

and btw this is a really good lesson^^ and i won't throw potatos at chu
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PostSubject: Re: One long Art Death Rant.   Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:52 pm

Yeah, people have to get over it if they get a "bad" rating. It's pathetic if some of you beg to rate, then they get sad. GET OVER YOURSELVES. The stupidity contest is down the hall, to the left.

Recoloring is getting to be annoying. We need more original artwork on Fantage. Most of this forum REVOLVES around it. Recolor every item on Fantage, you don't have to post 20 -a-day on the forum. Try pixeling or something.
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