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| Subject: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:36 pm | |
| [Edit Dec 18th '11] I am making this my Art Thread, so no more spamming the Art section o3o- Click and read meh :U ! :
Welcome to my thread o 7 o You are here to critique and if not, rate my art. Thank you xD Thanks, enjoy~ Ѽ
- IGNORE THIS:
Ѽ[spoiler= Art Dec 17th '11- (Small Page stretch)] That's the first time I've ever drawn him. My OC RR o v o --
ѼA chibi drawing For Kagamine Rin and Len's 4th birthday :3 Please do not critique Rin's eye that overlaps the hair, or the shaky lineart, or the fact the Len has no mouth. And that neither of them have eyebrows. --
Ignore the above spoiler please. Old stuff. [i][b] Will update with more art later
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:40 pm | |
| I think that deserves a bit of critique.
~Draw like that forever. ~10/10.
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:48 pm | |
| That's amazing. I'm jealous. > n > I'd give it a 10; c: | |
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:15 am | |
| this is awesome OKAY 10/10 since the arms are a bit too skinny and the left elbow is pointy |
| | | taehyung Veteran Fantagian
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:22 am | |
| two crits The neck is long and right arm is skinner than the other
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| | | Pommu-pon Loyal Fantagian
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:33 am | |
| - **cutey_larl** wrote:
- The neck is long
and right arm is skinner than the other Are you sure? Because I know very well both arms are a bit skinny (that's just how I draw arms ;_; ), but I don't know how they differ in sizes/width. Maybe it's because the arms are in a different position? And you find the neck long? Some how I don't know how it is long. I kinda find it fine enough.. I've tried it shorter-necked before completing the pic, and it just looked weird so I had to extend the neck like now so it would look more normal...? Thanks anyways. : ) | |
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:37 am | |
| About the hands i agree but the neck like make it not very tall or not very short. Np | |
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:39 am | |
| - **cutey_larl** wrote:
- About the hands i agree
but the neck like make it not very tall or not very short. Np I think I'll have to disagree... I won't change it.. I just think it looks fine.. ...So yeah... : | | |
| | | Oliver Moderator
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:11 pm | |
| CRITIQUE ----GENDER:I'm going to be honest here, I don't like how you draw boys. They all look like girls. Not even shotas, just girls. I could make the hair more effeminate, give him small breasts (i'm assuming he's a teenager since all your characters are.) and it would be a girl. Y'know what? I'm gonna go do that. done. - Spoiler:
I don't know about you, but to me, that looks like a girl. I know the hair was done badly (The one I added), but it's still hair, and, well, he just looks like a girl. The only way I can tell he's a boy is by his clothing and hair, which is a nono. AGE:
He doesn't look his age! Unless he's five to eight, he looks WAY younger than he's supposed to, noticing that he's supposed to be a 14 year old boy. (Checked your dA.) CLOTHING:THE SHIRT SHADING BURNS! ;A; I'm sorry but, It's smeared out in the wrong places. Also, random fold? Nice. Actually no, the folds aren't supposed to be random. The pockets are at the very edge on pants, something that is NEVER seen on pants. Putting them there might actually RIP the pants, and would be uncomfortable for the hands. The legs are fat compared to the rest of his body. UvU Also, LIGHT SOURCE????? LINEARTIt's REALLY messy. I'm a traditional artist and my lineart's cleaner than this. The lineart in the hair is the messiest. ;u; JUST A BIT OF HIS BODY:his arms one's bigger than the other???? also his face is like (....)-x the - and the x are the body and the (....) is the head also the neck bones are like lines??? they're not like that look up neck bones not ANIMU neck bones REAL PEOPLE neck bones HIM IN GENERAL:Okay so idc about his personality it's generic or whatever but apparently he's not supposed to be a girly boy?????? WHAT??????He looks A LOT like a girly boy fix that ok -- The background it's like idc about it. It's weird. ;M; 48/100 don't kill me ok i don't mean to be rude | |
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:37 am | |
| - Timegear wrote:
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CRITIQUE ----GENDER:I'm going to be honest here, I don't like how you draw boys. They all look like girls. Not even shotas, just girls. I could make the hair more effeminate, give him small breasts (i'm assuming he's a teenager since all your characters are.) and it would be a girl. Y'know what? I'm gonna go do that. done. - Spoiler:
I don't know about you, but to me, that looks like a girl. I know the hair was done badly (The one I added), but it's still hair, and, well, he just looks like a girl. The only way I can tell he's a boy is by his clothing and hair, which is a nono. AGE:
He doesn't look his age! Unless he's five to eight, he looks WAY younger than he's supposed to, noticing that he's supposed to be a 14 year old boy. (Checked your dA.) CLOTHING:THE SHIRT SHADING BURNS! ;A; I'm sorry but, It's smeared out in the wrong places. Also, random fold? Nice. Actually no, the folds aren't supposed to be random. The pockets are at the very edge on pants, something that is NEVER seen on pants. Putting them there might actually RIP the pants, and would be uncomfortable for the hands. The legs are fat compared to the rest of his body. UvU Also, LIGHT SOURCE????? LINEARTIt's REALLY messy. I'm a traditional artist and my lineart's cleaner than this. The lineart in the hair is the messiest. ;u; JUST A BIT OF HIS BODY:his arms one's bigger than the other???? also his face is like (....)-x the - and the x are the body and the (....) is the head also the neck bones are like lines??? they're not like that look up neck bones not ANIMU neck bones REAL PEOPLE neck bones HIM IN GENERAL:Okay so idc about his personality it's generic or whatever but apparently he's not supposed to be a girly boy?????? WHAT??????He looks A LOT like a girly boy fix that ok -- The background it's like idc about it. It's weird. ;M; 48/100 don't kill me ok i don't mean to be rude
WHOA LOL DA CRITIQUE BOMB. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YESS. ..I'm dying x.x
Anyways. Long neck is kinda my style.. The thing is; I don't really find it that long so I don't really want to... He's meant to be in some sort of 'standing up straight' position... Idk.. xl
I. Never. Get reference from animu pics. Always human pics. In fact, most of the time they're pics of me (don't ask). Maybe that's why my arm, neck and leg, hand anatomy is really awkward (mostly long and skinny). I have a longish body compared to the others in my family. Hmyeah.
Yes I know line art is extremely messy. It's my sketch style. When I say sketch, I mean EXTREMEMEMEMELY MESSY.
Shading. I hate it more than making backgrounds. It's terrible, I know. I usually don't do as bad for it as I did in this. Lighting... Facepalm. I won't even mention it. It's just as hard, since it's got to do with the shading and position. Off course, I do try my best most of the time. ---
AGE and GENDER. Age, sometimes I make them look young on purpose. It's to do with my chapters >w>
I'm really surprised that you think he looks young in this pic o W o My mom, a few friends and I actually thought it looked a bit old for 14. Looked somewhere around 17? Hm. He looks like a girl on purpose, and some other few of my male OCs (again that's to do with my writing..) but not all of my males look like females.
I forgot to mention, that since he grows very slowly (I mean over 3000 years old and still growing), his body parts develop really slowly. Let's just say he's a late sprite (or whatever they call it) xT -- Again, opinions and views all fall into this. Different people like different styles y'know. You might like different sorts of anatomy than I do.
I'm still practicing so I guess there's a lot to improve for now. Mainly the arm and age are my problems o v o
Thanks for the critique. This is by far one of the best guidances I've been given so far ; u ;
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| | | Oliver Moderator
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:06 pm | |
| - Miki-lu wrote:
- Timegear wrote:
- Spoiler:
CRITIQUE ----GENDER:I'm going to be honest here, I don't like how you draw boys. They all look like girls. Not even shotas, just girls. I could make the hair more effeminate, give him small breasts (i'm assuming he's a teenager since all your characters are.) and it would be a girl. Y'know what? I'm gonna go do that. done. - Spoiler:
I don't know about you, but to me, that looks like a girl. I know the hair was done badly (The one I added), but it's still hair, and, well, he just looks like a girl. The only way I can tell he's a boy is by his clothing and hair, which is a nono. AGE:
He doesn't look his age! Unless he's five to eight, he looks WAY younger than he's supposed to, noticing that he's supposed to be a 14 year old boy. (Checked your dA.) CLOTHING:THE SHIRT SHADING BURNS! ;A; I'm sorry but, It's smeared out in the wrong places. Also, random fold? Nice. Actually no, the folds aren't supposed to be random. The pockets are at the very edge on pants, something that is NEVER seen on pants. Putting them there might actually RIP the pants, and would be uncomfortable for the hands. The legs are fat compared to the rest of his body. UvU Also, LIGHT SOURCE????? LINEARTIt's REALLY messy. I'm a traditional artist and my lineart's cleaner than this. The lineart in the hair is the messiest. ;u; JUST A BIT OF HIS BODY:his arms one's bigger than the other???? also his face is like (....)-x the - and the x are the body and the (....) is the head also the neck bones are like lines??? they're not like that look up neck bones not ANIMU neck bones REAL PEOPLE neck bones HIM IN GENERAL:Okay so idc about his personality it's generic or whatever but apparently he's not supposed to be a girly boy?????? WHAT??????He looks A LOT like a girly boy fix that ok -- The background it's like idc about it. It's weird. ;M; 48/100 don't kill me ok i don't mean to be rude
WHOA LOL DA CRITIQUE BOMB. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YESS. ..I'm dying x.x
Anyways. Long neck is kinda my style.. The thing is; I don't really find it that long so I don't really want to... He's meant to be in some sort of 'standing up straight' position... Idk.. xl
I. Never. Get reference from animu pics. Always human pics. In fact, most of the time they're pics of me (don't ask). Maybe that's why my arm, neck and leg, hand anatomy is really awkward (mostly long and skinny). I have a longish body compared to the others in my family. Hmyeah.
Yes I know line art is extremely messy. It's my sketch style. When I say sketch, I mean EXTREMEMEMEMELY MESSY.
Shading. I hate it more than making backgrounds. It's terrible, I know. I usually don't do as bad for it as I did in this. Lighting... Facepalm. I won't even mention it. It's just as hard, since it's got to do with the shading and position. Off course, I do try my best most of the time. ---
AGE and GENDER. Age, sometimes I make them look young on purpose. It's to do with my chapters >w>
I'm really surprised that you think he looks young in this pic o W o My mom, a few friends and I actually thought it looked a bit old for 14. Looked somewhere around 17? Hm. He looks like a girl on purpose, and some other few of my male OCs (again that's to do with my writing..) but not all of my males look like females.
I forgot to mention, that since he grows very slowly (I mean over 3000 years old and still growing), his body parts develop really slowly. Let's just say he's a late sprite (or whatever they call it) xT -- Again, opinions and views all fall into this. Different people like different styles y'know. You might like different sorts of anatomy than I do.
I'm still practicing so I guess there's a lot to improve for now. Mainly the arm and age are my problems o v o
Thanks for the critique. This is by far one of the best guidances I've been given so far ; u ;
why are you denying most of this? you really shouldn't be doing a sketch style for a final drawing. and if A LOT of people see it and you don't, well, they might be right. by the way, do you have any "i look like a boy" boy characters? cuz if you don't, that's very bland. no one likes that. besides, like i said earlier, he doesn't even look like a shota, just a flatout girl, which isn't good. :U there isn't "different sorts of anatomy" there's correct anatomy, and incorrect anatomy. it's like: the first thing you would think is "woah that isn't humanly possible look at those arms and that hair and blabalballbla" you know why? BECAUSE IT'S INCORRECT ANATOMY yours has more subtle incorrect anatomy, but let me see: - Spoiler:
thank you my lovely sister for reference. the first thing she said is that it felt "really awkward" and well, i did it too and it does. :U the arm can't bend that way, if you look at the picture her arm is way shorter than his, and she has long arms. it's not that your arm is long, it's that you drew it wrong. also: please learn to take critique. you denied basically everything i said, and that WONT help you improve. | |
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:34 pm | |
| - Timegear wrote:
- Spoiler:
- Miki-lu wrote:
- Timegear wrote:
- Spoiler:
CRITIQUE ----GENDER:I'm going to be honest here, I don't like how you draw boys. They all look like girls. Not even shotas, just girls. I could make the hair more effeminate, give him small breasts (i'm assuming he's a teenager since all your characters are.) and it would be a girl. Y'know what? I'm gonna go do that. done. - Spoiler:
I don't know about you, but to me, that looks like a girl. I know the hair was done badly (The one I added), but it's still hair, and, well, he just looks like a girl. The only way I can tell he's a boy is by his clothing and hair, which is a nono. AGE:
He doesn't look his age! Unless he's five to eight, he looks WAY younger than he's supposed to, noticing that he's supposed to be a 14 year old boy. (Checked your dA.) CLOTHING:THE SHIRT SHADING BURNS! ;A; I'm sorry but, It's smeared out in the wrong places. Also, random fold? Nice. Actually no, the folds aren't supposed to be random. The pockets are at the very edge on pants, something that is NEVER seen on pants. Putting them there might actually RIP the pants, and would be uncomfortable for the hands. The legs are fat compared to the rest of his body. UvU Also, LIGHT SOURCE????? LINEARTIt's REALLY messy. I'm a traditional artist and my lineart's cleaner than this. The lineart in the hair is the messiest. ;u; JUST A BIT OF HIS BODY:his arms one's bigger than the other???? also his face is like (....)-x the - and the x are the body and the (....) is the head also the neck bones are like lines??? they're not like that look up neck bones not ANIMU neck bones REAL PEOPLE neck bones HIM IN GENERAL:Okay so idc about his personality it's generic or whatever but apparently he's not supposed to be a girly boy?????? WHAT??????He looks A LOT like a girly boy fix that ok -- The background it's like idc about it. It's weird. ;M; 48/100 don't kill me ok i don't mean to be rude
WHOA LOL DA CRITIQUE BOMB. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YESS. ..I'm dying x.x
Anyways. Long neck is kinda my style.. The thing is; I don't really find it that long so I don't really want to... He's meant to be in some sort of 'standing up straight' position... Idk.. xl
I. Never. Get reference from animu pics. Always human pics. In fact, most of the time they're pics of me (don't ask). Maybe that's why my arm, neck and leg, hand anatomy is really awkward (mostly long and skinny). I have a longish body compared to the others in my family. Hmyeah.
Yes I know line art is extremely messy. It's my sketch style. When I say sketch, I mean EXTREMEMEMEMELY MESSY.
Shading. I hate it more than making backgrounds. It's terrible, I know. I usually don't do as bad for it as I did in this. Lighting... Facepalm. I won't even mention it. It's just as hard, since it's got to do with the shading and position. Off course, I do try my best most of the time. ---
AGE and GENDER. Age, sometimes I make them look young on purpose. It's to do with my chapters >w>
I'm really surprised that you think he looks young in this pic o W o My mom, a few friends and I actually thought it looked a bit old for 14. Looked somewhere around 17? Hm. He looks like a girl on purpose, and some other few of my male OCs (again that's to do with my writing..) but not all of my males look like females.
I forgot to mention, that since he grows very slowly (I mean over 3000 years old and still growing), his body parts develop really slowly. Let's just say he's a late sprite (or whatever they call it) xT -- Again, opinions and views all fall into this. Different people like different styles y'know. You might like different sorts of anatomy than I do.
I'm still practicing so I guess there's a lot to improve for now. Mainly the arm and age are my problems o v o
Thanks for the critique. This is by far one of the best guidances I've been given so far ; u ;
why are you denying most of this? you really shouldn't be doing a sketch style for a final drawing. and if A LOT of people see it and you don't, well, they might be right. by the way, do you have any "i look like a boy" boy characters? cuz if you don't, that's very bland. no one likes that. besides, like i said earlier, he doesn't even look like a shota, just a flatout girl, which isn't good. :U there isn't "different sorts of anatomy" there's correct anatomy, and incorrect anatomy. it's like: the first thing you would think is "woah that isn't humanly possible look at those arms and that hair and blabalballbla" you know why? BECAUSE IT'S INCORRECT ANATOMY yours has more subtle incorrect anatomy, but let me see: - Spoiler:
thank you my lovely sister for reference. the first thing she said is that it felt "really awkward" and well, i did it too and it does. :U the arm can't bend that way, if you look at the picture her arm is way shorter than his, and she has long arms. it's not that your arm is long, it's that you drew it wrong. also: please learn to take critique. you denied basically everything i said, and that WONT help you improve.
Noo D: I'm not denying your critique. You see, I take all critiques given to me into account and see which changes I need the most. I take critique from here, from friends and family IRL and more. I know perfectly well my anatomy looks too girly. I AM working on making them look more male-looking. Off course. The arms. Yes mine ar long, but I KNOW these ones are way too long/skinny. I didn't mean it that it's completely because of my OWN arms. I am completely conscious that my limbs anatomy is too unhumanly plus that. I know really well I need to change it. The messy lineart. I wasn't working on it as hard as I usually would. Most of the time I'd make it proper lines and all, unless I'm tired or sick or lazy or something. It's not my normal lineart style D: For the "female looking characters". Just forget all of that. It's not even what I meant. I'm just terrible at explaining things. So don't even mind it. I say things without reading over sometimes or thinking.
Anyways, I didn't say I denied your critique. I really don't. Maybe I just think that the neck isn't as long as it seems. But that's all really. The rest, I know you are right. Up in the last comment, I had only mentioned the reasons why my style looks so weird. I aware that I have to improve on everything you said though.
As I said, your critique was probably one of the most helpful I have ever gotten. You went into every bits and pieces of the art and told me what was wrong. I really loved that. There is no way anyone can deny a critique like this. Otherwise, they'd just be way too proud of their art which is absolutely wrong, right?
I'm comparing all the critiques I get, and I'm trying to improve bit by bit. When I said about improving the arms and age looks first, I only meant that those were the most urgent. I'm working on it altogether. -- I'm sorry if you thought it like that- that I was denying so much of what you said. I really wasn't though. I just can't explain what I mean properly. -///-
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:47 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: ::Muka's Art Gallery:: Last update 12/27/11 Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:17 pm | |
| - Timegear wrote:
- CRITIQUE
---- GENDER: I'm going to be honest here, I don't like how you draw boys. They all look like girls. Not even shotas, just girls. I could make the hair more effeminate, give him small breasts (i'm assuming he's a teenager since all your characters are.) and it would be a girl. Y'know what? I'm gonna go do that. done.
- Spoiler:
I don't know about you, but to me, that looks like a girl. I know the hair was done badly (The one I added), but it's still hair, and, well, he just looks like a girl. The only way I can tell he's a boy is by his clothing and hair, which is a nono.
AGE:
He doesn't look his age! Unless he's five to eight, he looks WAY younger than he's supposed to, noticing that he's supposed to be a 14 year old boy. (Checked your dA.)
CLOTHING: THE SHIRT SHADING BURNS! ;A; I'm sorry but, It's smeared out in the wrong places. Also, random fold? Nice. Actually no, the folds aren't supposed to be random. The pockets are at the very edge on pants, something that is NEVER seen on pants. Putting them there might actually RIP the pants, and would be uncomfortable for the hands. The legs are fat compared to the rest of his body. UvU Also, LIGHT SOURCE?????
LINEART It's REALLY messy. I'm a traditional artist and my lineart's cleaner than this. The lineart in the hair is the messiest. ;u;
JUST A BIT OF HIS BODY: his arms one's bigger than the other???? also his face is like (....)-x the - and the x are the body and the (....) is the head also the neck bones are like lines??? they're not like that look up neck bones not ANIMU neck bones REAL PEOPLE neck bones
HIM IN GENERAL: Okay so idc about his personality it's generic or whatever but apparently he's not supposed to be a girly boy??????
WHAT?????? He looks A LOT like a girly boy fix that ok -- The background it's like idc about it. It's weird. ;M; 48/100 don't kill me ok i don't mean to be rude
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