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PostSubject: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 12:53 am

Well, I've been thinking about this that Why do people hate Twilight?
And it's like have they ever watched it?
I don't know why they hate Twilight. It's just that Twilight has a nice story and I love it!. *Problem?*
I've been thinking about that since I have saw many people hating Twilight.
And I think they are hating it because they have seen some people hating it too so they thing it's a bad movie.
Does anyone here love Twilight? >.>
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 5:20 am

Okay, first things first.

I hate Twilight, but I have read the book. I hated it, but I read it nonetheless.

PROBLEM 1:

Bella Swan. She's an idiot for falling in love with someone who's such a git to her. On top of that, she's an Auther-Insert Mary Sue. She's obviously intended to be Stephanie Meyer. Despite being a Sue, she's about as interesting as dirt. She's clumsy, stupid and annoying, yet every single flipping boy in the whole darn series is kissing her rear by chapter 5.

PROBLEM 2:

Edward. He's abusive, nasty, manipulative and a stalker, but he's also "handsome", so everyone should want to go out with him, right? Wrong.

And then he's also a "vampire".

Vampires in Twilight are basically underwear models who drink blood. At least 11 times in the story they launch into a mile long physical description of Edward, with his "deathly pale skin" and "perfect face" and "muscular chest".

AND HE SPARKLES, TOO.

He doesn't count as a vampire, really. He has no fangs, can stroll right out into the sunlight, eats human food and isn't afraid of holy symbols.

Better vampire than Edward >>>


PROBLEM 3:

Jacob the alpaca. Do I really need to go into this one? Really??
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 5:29 am

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Okay, first things first.

I hate Twilight, but I have read the book. I hated it, but I read it nonetheless.

PROBLEM 1:

Bella Swan. She's an idiot for falling in love with someone who's such a git to her. On top of that, she's an Auther-Insert Mary Sue. She's obviously intended to be Stephanie Meyer. Despite being a Sue, she's about as interesting as dirt. She's clumsy, stupid and annoying, yet every single flipping boy in the whole darn series is kissing her rear by chapter 5.

PROBLEM 2:

Edward. He's abusive, nasty, manipulative and a stalker, but he's also "handsome", so everyone should want to go out with him, right? Wrong.

And then he's also a "vampire".

Vampires in Twilight are basically underwear models who drink blood. At least 11 times in the story they launch into a mile long physical description of Edward, with his "deathly pale skin" and "perfect face" and "muscular chest".

AND HE SPARKLES, TOO.

He doesn't count as a vampire, really. He has no fangs, can stroll right out into the sunlight, eats human food and isn't afraid of holy symbols.

Better vampire than Edward >>>


PROBLEM 3:

Jacob the alpaca. Do I really need to go into this one? Really??

I really understand how you hate the characters but it doesn't mean the story is bad right?

And P.S *I'm not one of those girls who wants Edward. Honestly He sucks*

And what's wrong with that sparkle thing? It's just some knew style on twilight. I've read many Vampire stories and I know non of them sparks except Edward from twilight. But the sparkling thing means that Edward is going to turn into dust when he will be into the sunlight too much.

Each Vampire stories has differences. I know vampires has fangs and drink bloods but each of them has differences. Some of them are not scared of Hol symbol. Some of them are not scared of the light of sun. Some of them eat human foods (But only someones.)

And for Bella. I also hate those part that she is being kissed easily. especially those part of Breaking Dawn the part when she told Jacob to kiss her. I was like. *Jacob is not your freaking servant!*

So yeah, I also hate Bella for some reasons but it doesn't mean people should hate the story because the characters sucks right?
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 5:35 am

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I really understand how you hate the characters but it doesn't mean the story is bad right?

And P.S *I'm not one of those girls who wants Edward. Honestly He sucks*

And what's wrong with that sparkle thing? It's just some knew style on twilight. I've read many Vampire stories and I know non of them sparks except Edward from twilight. But the sparkling thing means that Edward is going to turn into dust when he will be into the sunlight too much.

Each Vampire stories has differences. I know vampires has fangs and drink bloods but each of them has differences. Some of them are not scared of Hol symbol. Some of them are not scared of the light of sun. Some of them eat human foods (But only someones.)

And for Bella. I also hate those part that she is being kissed easily. especially those part of Breaking Dawn the part when she told Jacob to kiss her. I was like. *Jacob is not your freaking servant!*

So yeah, I also hate Bella for some reasons but it doesn't mean people should hate the story because the characters sucks right?

Yeah, but this goes beyond "differences". Edward doesn't have any vampire characteristics.

And if all the characters suck, and the plot sucks, I don't see how anyone could like this book. The pretty cover art, I suppose?
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 6:00 am

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Yeah, but this goes beyond "differences". Edward doesn't have any vampire characteristics.

And if all the characters suck, and the plot sucks, I don't see how anyone could like this book. The pretty cover art, I suppose?

I know that Edward doesn't have that much vampire characteristics but Ugg! I don't want to defend Edward I don't even like him. q.q

For me not all the character sucks. Especially Alice. I love her.

To be honest. I don't like those main characters of twilight but the story is just nice. I may haven't read all the books of it but I've already seen its movie. And for me I think the story and the movie is just a little differences.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 6:05 am

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Pippin wrote:


Yeah, but this goes beyond "differences". Edward doesn't have any vampire characteristics.

And if all the characters suck, and the plot sucks, I don't see how anyone could like this book. The pretty cover art, I suppose?

I know that Edward doesn't have that much vampire characteristics but Ugg! I don't want to defend Edward I don't even like him. q.q

For me not all the character sucks. Especially Alice. I love her.

To be honest. I don't like those main characters of twilight but the story is just nice. I may haven't read all the books of it but I've already seen its movie. And for me I think the story and the movie is just a little differences.

How is it nice?

Examples, please.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 6:12 am

My mom was all like "Jacob's so haut, because Taylor Lautner is" and I was all like ">o< wuttt df"
I sorta liked it.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 6:14 am

Pippin wrote:


How is it nice?

Examples, please.

Just for me.
For the twilight, New moon and whatever sucks. I know. But in Breaking Dawn part 2 is the most part I love.
I like how they fought at each other but then it was just the future something something in the mind of Alice that.. Blah blah just watch the last part of breaking Dawn part 2.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 6:34 am

Twilight sucks.
The end.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 6:39 am

Everyone has their own opinions on things. You should respect them.

I'm more of a fan of Vampire Diaries, But I'm not going to post a list with a million reasons why Twilight sucks.

That would be rude.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 6:43 am

Everybody has their own opinions, but they don't have to be all the same.
1. The plot is sort of lame.
2. Edward isn't even like, a real vampire.
3. I don't get why people see Jacob as "hot."
4. The acting is terrible.
5. The movie was so bad I couldn't even read the book.
Oh, and don't bash on me if I didn't give Twilight a "chance," because I watched all the movies.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 6:50 am

Okay.. I Admit my defeat.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 6:50 am

No! You can still love Twilight. This is just my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 6:54 am

I feel so weird to say this but I kinda like twilight.
I have all the movies
It's not really that bad, I mean breaking dawn part 1 was a litte inappriate but that is all.
I kinda like the story but the one thing I hate is Kristen Stewart as Bellla she sucks!
Kirsten stewart has no emotion whatsoever!
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 6:59 am

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No! You can still love Twilight. This is just my opinion.

Yes, I still love it but I also agree to some haters of it.
But in my own opinion Twilight has a nice parts of each story. I don't know how to explain it but yes, It's a good story for me but I don't know with other.

@crona Yes, Bella has no much emotion. That's why I also hate her. But I love her emotion when her baby is already going out. And I also hate Bella when she tried to do the *love* again with Edward even though she is already hurt. She sucks.

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And honestly I'm making this thread just to hear the others opinion. :3
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 7:15 am

Ahem, the person who plays Bella cannot act. She literally looks at "Edward" and says "Oh Edward, I love you!" yet her face is completely serious not showing any emotion whatsoever.

The plot is terrible. Everybody is already loving Bella even though she just registered into the high school, and her character isn't even that cool, she's annoying. I know I wouldn't hang out with her anytime soon.

Edward isn't a real vampire. He sparkles, and he's "perfect-looking" he also is very creepy, stalking people, and reading people's minds then replying to them in the middle of the cafeteria. Ew.

No. Just no.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 8:35 am

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Ahem, the person who plays Bella cannot act. She literally looks at "Edward" and says "Oh Edward, I love you!" yet her face is completely serious not showing any emotion whatsoever.

The plot is terrible. Everybody is already loving Bella even though she just registered into the high school, and her character isn't even that cool, she's annoying. I know I wouldn't hang out with her anytime soon.

Edward isn't a real vampire. He sparkles, and he's "perfect-looking" he also is very creepy, stalking people, and reading people's minds then replying to them in the middle of the cafeteria. Ew.

No. Just no.

I also hate those part why they love Bella just by looking at her. But did you know? The Director said that Bella has the hardest role among them all.
Yes, I also know that she doesn't have too much expression. But if you try watching the breaking dawn 2 it would be better.

Those fighting scene is just so cool.

Edward could read mind and that is his power.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 9:05 am

I just think it's boring and it doesn't make much since. Then again, I've never really been one for romance novels aimed for teenagers...or romance novels in general, really.
I've seen all of the movies and read all of the books because my grandmother is a huge fan so I watched the movies with her and read the books to her (she has really poor eyesight and couldn't do it herself). It was all absolute torture.
First of all, one thing that doesn't make sense about the last book is how on earth does Bella reproduce with a dead man (Edward)? Vampires are supposed to be the living dead and therefore they CANNOT reproduce. At all. So yeah, that really made no sense whatsoever. Another thing is, if Bella gets sick at the sight of blood...what does she do when she's on her period? I wouldn't think she'd be allowed to skip school for a week or two each month.
Besides that, the Twilight series is all extremely predictable and generic. It's also really cheesy and the fact that it's aimed at younger teenagers is painfully obvious. It's just not a good piece of literature and it's far too easy to read, plus parts of it are really sexist towards females. I've also always wondered why Bella is totally OK with knowing that Edward was coming into her room at night and watching her sleep even before they were in a relationship...like, that's just weird. But then again, she constantly runs to Edward and Jacob even though they're pretty abusive towards her when she 'irritates' them. She's also willing to date a dude who's dead and another dude who's actually half-wolf and 'implants' on her baby. Like, all of that's just sort of nasty...
The movies are also filmed in an obnoxious way, most of the acting is done poorly, the script is awful (I'm sure that has something to do with the acting because Kristen Stewart was really good in her older films, before Twilight), they weren't consistent with some of the special effects, there were a lot of goofs, I noticed that one of the scenes is almost ripped straight off from another movie (SLC Punk), and parts of it were painful to watch due to the extreme cheesiness of it all. I'm just going to stop right here so I don't drag this on for even longer than I already have.
All-in-all, Twilight just isn't something that appeals to me. It's alright if you or anybody else likes it, though. I just personally don't enjoy it. c:
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 10:38 am

Kristen Stewart, has no expression whatsoever... That's it...
E.G
This is her normal face:

Smiling (probably?):

I'm not hating, but how the heck is she a actor?
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 10:55 am

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Kristen Stewart, has no expression whatsoever... That's it...
E.G
This is her normal face:

Smiling (probably?):

I'm not hating, but how the heck is she a actor?
I thought she was pretty good in some of her older films, actually.

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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 11:27 am

i think its stupid to not let people enjoy their stories.
i dont like twilight much but if you do thats awesome. keep loving it.

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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 2:31 pm

This is dumb,Twilight is absolutely amazing.I'm not even going to start.
Have you guys seen the movie 'Speak' and shes the lead role?
She shows so much emotion its amazing,you guys NEVER know if that role in Twilight was suppose to be acted the way she did it.If not,don't you guys think that the Director choosing the roles wouldn't have picked her?

Also,You guys say she shows no emotion.Last time I checked,Kristen was able to control her body/emotions and can do what ever she wants with it.She can frown all day,and she Chooses to do it.

I loved Breaking Dawn Part 2 it was obviously amazing,not many people like it but I think Twilight is better than Harry Potter.Just my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 3:24 pm

Mr.Noah wrote:
This is dumb,Twilight is absolutely amazing.I'm not even going to start.
Have you guys seen the movie 'Speak' and shes the lead role?
She shows so much emotion its amazing,you guys NEVER know if that role in Twilight was suppose to be acted the way she did it.If not,don't you guys think that the Director choosing the roles wouldn't have picked her?

Also,You guys say she shows no emotion.Last time I checked,Kristen was able to control her body/emotions and can do what ever she wants with it.She can frown all day,and she Chooses to do it.

I loved Breaking Dawn Part 2 it was obviously amazing,not many people like it but I think Twilight is better than Harry Potter.Just my opinion.

That wasn't my argument against Twilight.
This was::
 

Harry Potter is way better than Twilight. Harry Potter has characters who are cool and who you can relate to, Twilight has characters that make you want to throw up. Harry Potter has a plot, action, and romance that isn't stupid or overdone. Twilight is about as interesting and gripping as watching paint dry.

I'm not trying to attack you or other Twilight fans by saying this. It's my honest opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 3:38 pm

Mr.Noah wrote:
This is dumb,Twilight is absolutely amazing.I'm not even going to start.
Have you guys seen the movie 'Speak' and shes the lead role?
She shows so much emotion its amazing,you guys NEVER know if that role in Twilight was suppose to be acted the way she did it.If not,don't you guys think that the Director choosing the roles wouldn't have picked her?

Also,You guys say she shows no emotion.Last time I checked,Kristen was able to control her body/emotions and can do what ever she wants with it.She can frown all day,and she Chooses to do it.

I loved Breaking Dawn Part 2 it was obviously amazing,not many people like it but I think Twilight is better than Harry Potter.Just my opinion.
I didn't insult Kristen Stewart in my reasons as to why I don't like Twilight.
I actually complimented her, if anything. I personally think that she, outside of Twilight and some of her more recent films (like The Runaways), is a pretty good actress.
I just don't like the Twilight series, that's all.
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PostSubject: Re: About Twilight   Tue May 07, 2013 3:53 pm

Kristen Stewart Is supposed to be emotionless. That is the role she is supposed to play as Bella Swan.

If you've seen a couple of her other movies, she's a pretty good actor. Not the best, but certainly not the worst.
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